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This past week on the FFit Rich Life Podcast (episode 106), I was joined by Naseema McElroy, the founder of Financially Intentional and author of the book Smart Money.

And this is one of the rawest, most honest conversations I've ever had on the show.

Naseema is a labor and delivery nurse.

And one of the most compelling voices in personal finance today.

She grew up in West Oakland, raised by a single dad.

She earned two master's degrees from USC and UCSF.

And then she paid off nearly $1 million in debt in about three and a half years — all while going through an abusive marriage, a divorce, and her ex-husband ending up in jail.

We talked about being raised by a single parent, healing financial trauma, the difference between looking rich and being rich, the courage to talk openly about money, and the role of community in transforming your life.

This episode is about money.

But it's really about something much bigger:

What happens when you stop hiding from your shame, take radical self-responsibility, and decide your story can become your power.

That is what a Fit Rich Life is built on.

On that note, let's dive into this week's tips, tools, and strategies for fitness, money, and life.

FIT — Move Every Day

When I asked Naseema for her fitness and health tip, her answer was simple:

Just do something every day.

And I loved that answer.

Because it is not fancy.

It is not complicated.

It is not optimized to death.

It is the same principle that helped her transform her money:

Start.

Move.

Do something.

Naseema said she does not consider herself a fitness person.

In fact, she joked that she used to say she was “allergic to exercise.”

And she could get away with that for a while because she was naturally slim.

But then she hit 40.

And suddenly her body was like:

Baby, this is not going to happen naturally anymore.

I felt that.

Because at a certain point, your body starts asking for evidence.

Not perfection.

Not a six-day-a-week bodybuilding split.

Not a perfectly optimized program with the perfect macros, perfect supplements, perfect recovery, and perfect workout clothes.

Just evidence.

Evidence that you are the kind of person who moves.

Evidence that you are the kind of person who keeps promises to yourself.

Evidence that you are the kind of person who does something, even when you do not feel like it.

That is the power of daily movement.

It builds identity.

It builds momentum.

It builds self-trust.

And often, the most important workout is not the one where you crush it.

It is the one where you almost skip it, but you still do something.

A walk.

A stretch.

A short lift.

A pickleball game.

A dance session.

A few push-ups.

A 10-minute minimum viable workout.

Something.

Because something keeps the chain alive.

Something keeps you connected to the version of yourself you are becoming.

Something reminds your body:

I am still here.

I still care.

I am still building.

The same way Naseema approached money, she now approaches fitness.

You do not need to know everything.

You do not need to be perfect.

You do not need to identify as a “fitness person” before you begin.

You begin, and the identity catches up.

The strategy is simple:

Do something every day.

Not because every day needs to be intense.

Not because more is always better.

But because consistency creates confidence.

And confidence creates transformation.

RICH — Your Network = Your Net Worth

When I asked Naseema for her money and wealth tip, she said something I deeply believe:

Your network is your net worth.

And this is one of the biggest financial lessons most people underestimate.

Because your money life is being shaped by the messages you receive every day.

What are the people around you normalizing?

Are they normalizing debt?

Are they normalizing consumerism?

Are they normalizing luxury cars, designer bags, expensive restaurants, and looking rich?

Or are they normalizing budgeting, investing, ownership, freedom, debt payoff, and actually building wealth?

This matters.

A lot.

Naseema grew up knowing how to make money.

She was side hustling early.

She braided hair.

She worked.

She bought her own car in high school.

She became highly educated.

She built a strong career.

She had the house, the luxury car, the six-figure job, and the image of success.

But she still felt broke.

And that is such an important distinction.

Because making money and building wealth are not the same thing.

Looking rich and getting rich are not the same thing.

Naseema eventually listed out all of her debt and faced the truth.

Then she used the debt snowball.

Smallest balance first.

Minimum payments on the rest.

Attack one debt.

Win.

Attack the next debt.

Win again.

Build momentum.

Build belief.

Build financial power.

She also used zero-based budgeting, which means giving every dollar a job in advance.

Not because she wanted to feel restricted.

But because she wanted to feel in control.

That plan became grounding.

It gave her something to hold onto during chaos.

And this is where Naseema said one of my favorite lines from the entire episode:

People did not math their way into debt. They are not going to math their way out of debt.

That is so good.

Because yes, math matters.

Interest rates matter.

Budgeting matters.

Investing matters.

But money is deeply emotional.

If debt was created through stress, shame, survival, insecurity, trauma, status, fear, or trying to belong, then the way out requires more than math.

It requires psychology.

It requires momentum.

It requires identity.

It requires courage.

It requires changing the messages you receive.

For Naseema, that meant entering the financial independence community.

Following people online who were talking about debt freedom, investing, and wealth.

Documenting her own journey.

Connecting with other people who were also paying off debt and building wealth.

Eventually, becoming friends with the very people she once looked up to.

That is the power of upgrading your circle.

And the beautiful thing is, you can start virtually.

Listen to podcasts.

Read blogs.

Follow people who are living the kind of financial life you want to live.

Find people who normalize saving, investing, debt payoff, and financial independence.

Let their mindset become your mindset.

Let their habits become your habits.

Let their courage expand your courage.

You do not have to cut everyone out of your life.

But you do need to be honest about who is influencing you.

Because the people surrounding you are always training you.

The question is:

Are the people in your life training you to be financially trapped?

Or are they training you to become financially free?

LIFE — Rich In Relationships

When I asked Naseema for her life and happiness tip, her answer was immediate:

Relationships are everything. Community is everything.

That hit me.

Because so much of personal development, fitness, and financial independence can become hyper-individualistic.

Track your money.

Fix your habits.

Optimize your life.

Build your wealth.

Become financially free.

And yes — personal responsibility matters.

A lot.

But a rich life is not built alone.

Naseema talked about the importance of true friendships and true partnerships.

Not surface-level networking.

Not transactional relationships.

Not followers, likes, or audience size.

Real people.

People who know your story.

People who can hold you when life gets heavy.

People who can tell you the truth.

People who can walk with you through the messy middle.

And Naseema's whole story is proof of this.

When her dad was raising her and her sister as a single parent, he leaned on his community — grandparents, friends, family — to fill in the gaps he could not fill himself.

When she was paying off her debt, she leaned on the same group of girlfriends she has had since middle school.

When she was in an abusive marriage, it was her best friend at work who pulled her aside one day and said:

"Naseema, is enough going to be enough?"

That one sentence helped change her life.

Because shame thrives in secrecy.

But healing begins in relationship.

When you hear someone tell the truth about their money shame, it gives you permission to look at your own.

When you hear someone talk openly about debt, it gives you permission to stop hiding.

When you hear someone talk about divorce, abuse, survival, and rebuilding, it gives you permission to believe:

Maybe I can rebuild too.

That is why I respect Naseema so much.

She shares the ugly.

She shares the real.

She shares the parts most people hide.

And in doing so, she has built something much bigger than a personal finance brand.

She has built a space where people can feel seen.

That is community.

And that is High Net-Life.

This is also one of the reasons I am so obsessed with pickleball right now.

It is not just exercise.

It is community.

In less than a year, I have met more than 100 new friends through pickleball.

I have dozens of contacts in my phone saved as "John Pickleball," "Chris Pickleball," and "Kim Pickleball."

I show up to the courts, and within five minutes, I am laughing, sweating, talking, and connecting.

That is not just fitness.

That is a richer life.

The longest-running study on human happiness, the Harvard Study of Adult Development, has been pointing to the same conclusion for almost 90 years:

The strongest predictor of a happy, healthy, long life is the quality of your relationships.

Not your job.

Not your bank account.

Not your achievements.

Your people.

Your circle.

Your community.

And the best part is, anyone can build it.

You do not need money.

You do not need fame.

You do not need a platform.

You just need to show up consistently somewhere people gather.

A gym.

A pickleball court.

A run club.

A meetup group.

A volunteer event.

A church, temple, or community center.

You show up.

You introduce yourself.

You ask people about their lives.

You listen.

You come back next week.

And slowly, you build the kind of relationships that hold you up when life gets hard and celebrate with you when life is good.

Money can create freedom.

But relationships create richness.

That is the magic.

ACTION — Build A Richer Circle

Pick one thing to upgrade this week:

1. MOVE YOUR BODY EVERY DAY

Forget the perfect workout. Just do something. Walk, lift, stretch, dance, hike, bike, play. Five minutes counts. Ten minutes counts. The goal is the streak. Daily movement compounds — and so does momentum. The hardest day is day one. The next hardest is day two. After that, your body starts asking for it.

2. UPGRADE YOUR CIRCLE — EVEN VIRTUALLY

Your network is your net worth. If the people around you normalize debt, hustle without rest, and looking rich, you will too. If the people around you normalize building wealth, investing, and intentionality, you will too. Audit your inputs this week. Add one new podcast, newsletter, or account that pulls you in the direction you want to grow. Then unfollow one source of noise pulling you the other way.

3. INVEST IN ONE REAL RELATIONSHIP

Pick one person you care about and reach out this week. Send the text. Make the call. Schedule the coffee. Book the dinner. Show up at the court, the gym, the meetup. Community does not happen by accident. It is built through small, repeated acts of showing up. Your future self will thank you.

Then listen to the full conversation with Naseema McElroy so you can:

• Hear how Naseema paid off nearly $1 million in debt in three and a half years.

• Learn why the debt snowball is one of the most powerful (and emotional) wealth-building strategies — and why "people did not math their way into debt, so they're not gonna math their way out."

• Understand the difference between looking rich and actually being rich.

• Hear an honest, vulnerable conversation about financial trauma, divorce, abuse, and rebuilding from rock bottom.

• Learn how Naseema built Financially Intentional into one of the most important voices in personal finance.

• Get inspired to take one small action today that future-you will thank you for.

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To your health, wealth, and happiness,

— Justin David Carl